Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Indian winners and nominees of the New York Film Critics Circle
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 13:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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This page fails WP:NLIST, since none of the sources (or any others reviewed in BEFORE search) discuss Indian winners and nominees at the New York Film Critics Circle as a group. First off, there appear to be only two entries on this list, and all the sources describe their individual wins, not them as a group. Contested draftification. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and India. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and Awards. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 14:08, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – no sign of significance as a group per WP:NLIST. While NLIST allows for certain other types of lists regardless of notability, this does not fall into those categories. RunningTiger123 (talk) 21:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This is generally not a defining WP:NLIST characteristic and edges WP:POINT. Nate • (chatter) 23:40, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Notable awards ceremony since more than 40 years, not something random, well sourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ustadeditor2011 (talk • contribs)
- Comment The awards aren't in question here, but this separate article for two items picked out because of a nation of origination is not a proper reason for an article. Nate • (chatter) 17:16, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: To kind of further explain this - the main issue here isn't whether or not the awards are notable. The issue is that as a spinoff article, this needs to justify its existence. This is generally done in one of two ways:
- The topic has enough coverage to justify its own article. For this, what would be needed isn't coverage of a specific person winning an award, but rather coverage that generally talks about Indians being nominated for or otherwise participating in a given awards ceremony. You can see examples of this in the Academy Awards and Golden Globe articles.
- The topic is large enough to justify a spinoff article. In other words, there would need to be so many nominees that it would make sense to spin it off into its own article. The catch here is that if there are enough nominees/winners to justify this, then there would be coverage fulfilling the first situation.
- Now what makes this different and a bit frustrating is that well, the NYFCC isn't nearly as high profile as the other film festivals listed on the page. It's certainly known and respected, but it tends to receive a fraction of the attention of say, the Oscars or Golden Globes. As such, outlets are less likely to write articles focusing on a specific country at the NYFCC awards. Returning to the two points I made above, the issue here is that the article contains only two entries, so it isn't a case of there being so much content that a spinoff is obvious. There also doesn't seem to be any coverage focusing on the Indian film industry in general as it applies to the NYFCC awards - and because there are only two entries, this is the criteria that would really need to be proven (unless there are others that haven't been added). If you can find coverage of this, please add it. Now, I'm not saying that this coverage doesn't exist - I haven't looked for it so I can't say that it doesn't, just that this is where people arguing for a delete are coming from with this. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 20:44, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:NLIST as described by the nominator. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 09:37, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:CROSSCAT. hinnk (talk) 23:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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